Go to the same site, here and listen to Dave Beuhner, one of the contributors to "The Bombshell", explain everything you ever wanted to know about George Ryman's Setters, and the Ryman type Setter of today.
Dave is a passionate individual about his Setters, and his Pennsylvania Grouse hunting traditions. He possesses a wealth of knowledge on the subject of his pursuits, and this podcast is an investment well worth any birdhunter or dogman's time.
I respect Dave highly for his steadfastness in his beliefs...
Scroll down to Podcast #034, and listen to a true dogman speak his peace...
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